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helen

Hi Kathryn

THe large A-frame as you have seen is a trade-off - better handling for you in the air because you hang lower and have more weightshift authority to the sides, but trickier launching and groundhandling - I remember the pic of you holding my Litesport at Tumut and you could pretty much stand up completely inside the A-frame! But as you know, it's not just your height - a man of the same height would have wider shoulders; the glider then sits higher so the basebar has more clearance from the ground, and also the man has more leverage because the pivot point on the shoulders and his hands are further away from the apex.

If you're aerotowing off a dolly, the small frame would give no advantage, but IMO in footlaunching you would have much more authority over the wing.

Pilot Eva is coming to WWW2 but I'm not sure if she's bringing her Litesport with the small frame, which used to belong to a friend of mine who is 5'1". If Eva does bring it (maybe ask her to?), you should be able to at least do some groundhandling in it, or possibly even a fly but of course that's up to her.

I agonised for ages about getting the L3 or the 4, with lots of people saying I should get the 4, but the people who knew me best, and who knew my concerns, including highly skilled people like Adam Parer, all advised the 3 would give me more confidence because I would have more control over the wing in turbulence. When I contacted Moyes they said I'd have no trouble climbing in the little wing.

Anyway, hopefully you'll get a chance to compare at WWW2; Tove is about your size also,, and will have useful advice I'm sure. If you decide on a smaller A-frame, I'm sure you will be able to get one from Moyes.


kathryn

I'm not getting a smaller a-frame - just a shortened speedbar, uprights still the same. They will have to lengthen the sidewires. Like Zhenya has in her LiteSpeed. It just narrows the top of the triangle so it helps get my shoulders in there. You don't really lose handling supposedly...

New-mikha

> Even Trent waited for ages to launch, and that alone made me nervous.
As I understand, the launch is quite low there (100-200 meters?) So without a good ridge lift it could be just waiting for a good thermal cycle. Or at least it should be 50% of the reasons.

helen

Ah, I should have read more carefully - yes, a narrower speedbar will be ideal.

Evgeniya

Don't worry about handling with the shortened basebar, Kath!

When I got my Liteseed with the usual big A-frame, I flew it for one season, always foot launching.
Then I flew for one year with the shortened basebar (big big thanks to Gerolf and Moyes guys for giving me this chance to try it).

I didn't lose any bit of handling.

I guess, you lose handling if you need to hang higher (in case of small a-frame with smaller uprights that is).

But when you just shorten your basebar, you don't hang higher, you can even hang lower.

I like the handling of my Litespeed now, and it is easier to take off in difficult conditions, no doubt:)

kathryn

@ new-mikha, yes it's not soo high but it's always better when the wind is coming up the hill, even if it's not ridge soarable! The thermals were there, but even they were cross most fo the time too

@ Zhenya - good to know, look forward to trying it out myself, must get onto it ASAP! If you are going to Stanwell let me know, maybe I can try your bar on my glider for size?

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